1 00:00:08,990 --> 00:00:07,700 the planets up the masters almost surely 2 00:00:11,299 --> 00:00:09,000 have a plan 3 00:00:13,770 --> 00:00:11,309 this clearly may be something near 4 00:00:17,390 --> 00:00:13,780 beyond the realm of man 5 00:00:20,250 --> 00:00:17,400 I already tested every last question you 6 00:00:43,660 --> 00:00:20,260 find the more you think you know the 7 00:00:47,750 --> 00:00:46,040 hello again our side shatters how the 8 00:00:49,490 --> 00:00:47,760 hell are you drinking a little drink and 9 00:00:51,799 --> 00:00:49,500 smoking a little smoke from sunny San 10 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:51,809 Diego I'm Greg Carl Wood and today is 11 00:00:56,509 --> 00:00:53,970 the return of a guest I really liked the 12 00:00:58,970 --> 00:00:56,519 first time around fellow podcaster Jenn 13 00:01:00,290 --> 00:00:58,980 briny of congressional dish and I 14 00:01:01,850 --> 00:01:00,300 thought it was a great time to have her 15 00:01:04,009 --> 00:01:01,860 back because when you look at a lot of 16 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:04,019 the legislation now we're seeing the 17 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:06,210 push towards total corporate control and 18 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:09,210 landmark conflicts and laws that will 19 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:11,040 set the precedent in the future are 20 00:01:15,950 --> 00:01:14,250 happening now and a savvy mind can hear 21 00:01:17,960 --> 00:01:15,960 what's in these documents and in these 22 00:01:20,150 --> 00:01:17,970 trade agreements and read between the 23 00:01:22,550 --> 00:01:20,160 lines and cut straight to the core of 24 00:01:24,169 --> 00:01:22,560 the conspiratorial tiptoe so I think 25 00:01:26,060 --> 00:01:24,179 it's a great thing to examine once in a 26 00:01:27,950 --> 00:01:26,070 while and nobody died sex it better than 27 00:01:30,410 --> 00:01:27,960 Jenn we did record the show a few weeks 28 00:01:32,960 --> 00:01:30,420 ago I feel bad because I hung on to it 29 00:01:35,060 --> 00:01:32,970 for so long but I did not expect all 30 00:01:37,249 --> 00:01:35,070 those conference guests and I had to fit 31 00:01:39,469 --> 00:01:37,259 the men before their big day but one 32 00:01:41,210 --> 00:01:39,479 thing that I think has changed since we 33 00:01:43,700 --> 00:01:41,220 recorded this is we were talking about 34 00:01:47,330 --> 00:01:43,710 the trans-pacific partnership I believe 35 00:01:52,100 --> 00:01:47,340 now they have actually locked in the 36 00:01:54,740 --> 00:01:52,110 final verbage and now it's just one step 37 00:01:56,630 --> 00:01:54,750 closer to ramen that thing through but 38 00:01:59,749 --> 00:01:56,640 it is important to note that that change 39 00:02:02,870 --> 00:01:59,759 has happened but here we are back in the 40 00:02:05,180 --> 00:02:02,880 saddle kick and off November let's get 41 00:02:05,930 --> 00:02:05,190 into it telling it like it is my friend 42 00:02:12,510 --> 00:02:05,940 and yours 43 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:17,450 [\h__\h] just about to open up your man 44 00:02:22,470 --> 00:02:19,500 information about the secret an 45 00:02:24,330 --> 00:02:22,480 insulation and the wisest aficionados he 46 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:24,340 can 47 00:02:29,309 --> 00:02:27,190 woman Mac care normally thought we get 48 00:02:33,210 --> 00:02:29,319 dessert so we can see the world with a 49 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:33,220 brand new said about you listening to 50 00:02:43,870 --> 00:02:42,370 all right people we know the shadowy 51 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:43,880 elite have been working towards total 52 00:02:47,590 --> 00:02:45,890 global control for generations and with 53 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:47,600 things like government corruption and 54 00:02:51,340 --> 00:02:49,850 corporate power reaching new bold levels 55 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:51,350 it's getting easier to follow their 56 00:02:54,910 --> 00:02:53,150 moves on the big chessboard we call home 57 00:02:57,130 --> 00:02:54,920 and see these various pieces of the 58 00:02:58,600 --> 00:02:57,140 plans start to fall into place yet with 59 00:03:01,030 --> 00:02:58,610 so many people screaming from the 60 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:01,040 rafters that the sky is falling very few 61 00:03:04,390 --> 00:03:02,690 have tackled the daunting task of 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:04,400 actually reading and understanding the 63 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:06,050 legislation these overlords have been 64 00:03:10,180 --> 00:03:08,210 pushing through including those who vote 65 00:03:11,980 --> 00:03:10,190 on it and with billions spent on 66 00:03:13,810 --> 00:03:11,990 lobbying buying up the government and 67 00:03:15,700 --> 00:03:13,820 ensuring the media always turns a blind 68 00:03:17,500 --> 00:03:15,710 eye that should tell us what's written 69 00:03:19,330 --> 00:03:17,510 on that paper is pretty important and 70 00:03:21,730 --> 00:03:19,340 thanks to today's guests we actually 71 00:03:23,470 --> 00:03:21,740 know what some of it says Jen briny is 72 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:23,480 the host of congressional dish where she 73 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:25,130 reads and researches the Congressional 74 00:03:27,910 --> 00:03:26,510 Record and all the bills that pass 75 00:03:30,790 --> 00:03:27,920 either the house or the Senate and 76 00:03:33,430 --> 00:03:30,800 reports on that information in a clearer 77 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:33,440 more digestible way she's been here once 78 00:03:36,370 --> 00:03:34,910 before just about a year ago and I 79 00:03:38,230 --> 00:03:36,380 thought it was time we check on her once 80 00:03:40,750 --> 00:03:38,240 again Jen thanks so much for being here 81 00:03:43,210 --> 00:03:40,760 welcome back to THC thank you for having 82 00:03:45,100 --> 00:03:43,220 me it's always fun yeah the pleasure is 83 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:45,110 mine you've had some great shows lately 84 00:03:48,130 --> 00:03:46,730 breaking down all the bills they've 85 00:03:50,470 --> 00:03:48,140 tried to pass and some that they 86 00:03:52,390 --> 00:03:50,480 actually did over the summer and some of 87 00:03:55,510 --> 00:03:52,400 these international treaties which seem 88 00:03:57,670 --> 00:03:55,520 to be big red flags but before we really 89 00:03:59,380 --> 00:03:57,680 get into the details let me ask you more 90 00:04:01,060 --> 00:03:59,390 of a broad sense what you've seen in the 91 00:04:03,729 --> 00:04:01,070 past year bigger and bolder theft and 92 00:04:05,949 --> 00:04:03,739 corruption I'd assume you know actually 93 00:04:07,060 --> 00:04:05,959 the 114th Congress hasn't been as bad as 94 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:07,070 I thought it would be I mean that 95 00:04:12,330 --> 00:04:09,110 doesn't mean that it's good but I was 96 00:04:15,070 --> 00:04:12,340 expecting I was expecting more 97 00:04:16,870 --> 00:04:15,080 corruption that I've seen so yeah I'm 98 00:04:19,390 --> 00:04:16,880 actually pleasantly surprised with what 99 00:04:21,670 --> 00:04:19,400 I've seen but everything's getting weird 100 00:04:24,460 --> 00:04:21,680 now I mean 114th Congress only started 101 00:04:27,010 --> 00:04:24,470 in January but we just had an almost 102 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:27,020 shutdown and then the Speaker of the 103 00:04:32,590 --> 00:04:29,090 House just resigned and so I think the 104 00:04:34,270 --> 00:04:32,600 weirdness is just about to start in the 105 00:04:35,830 --> 00:04:34,280 first Congress that I did the hundred 106 00:04:37,270 --> 00:04:35,840 thirteenth things got weird in the 107 00:04:40,210 --> 00:04:37,280 summer so this one's just a little bit 108 00:04:42,190 --> 00:04:40,220 delayed yeah it's about to get a little 109 00:04:44,260 --> 00:04:42,200 freaky especially there's no one really 110 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:44,270 left that can replace Boehner that can 111 00:04:48,010 --> 00:04:46,160 really be on both sides of the 112 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:48,020 Republican Party like the one side that 113 00:04:51,430 --> 00:04:49,250 cares about governing and then the other 114 00:04:52,690 --> 00:04:51,440 side that's really quite reckless 115 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:52,700 I think we're gonna get a more reckless 116 00:04:56,650 --> 00:04:55,040 speaker that's my guess and so yeah I 117 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:56,660 think the the crazy stuff is yet to come 118 00:05:00,370 --> 00:04:58,490 I really do Wow 119 00:05:02,950 --> 00:05:00,380 no what do you think of John Boehner is 120 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:02,960 retirement I mean was that surprising to 121 00:05:05,950 --> 00:05:04,160 you do you think he's probably just 122 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:05,960 going to work in the public sector do 123 00:05:08,710 --> 00:05:07,010 you think something might have been 124 00:05:10,330 --> 00:05:08,720 coming down the pike that was gonna put 125 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:10,340 pressure on him and he wanted to bow out 126 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:12,050 gracefully what do you think was behind 127 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:15,650 all that it was yes and no it was 128 00:05:19,690 --> 00:05:18,050 surprising it was surprising in that it 129 00:05:21,970 --> 00:05:19,700 happened in the middle of his term and 130 00:05:24,220 --> 00:05:21,980 the way that it did where he just out of 131 00:05:25,540 --> 00:05:24,230 nowhere just said okay I'm not only out 132 00:05:27,220 --> 00:05:25,550 of the speakership I'm out of Congress 133 00:05:29,230 --> 00:05:27,230 that I wasn't I didn't see that coming 134 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:29,240 but I'm not surprised that he's leaving 135 00:05:33,340 --> 00:05:32,000 because he's had to deal with some 136 00:05:35,230 --> 00:05:33,350 pretty crazy stuff in the last five 137 00:05:37,330 --> 00:05:35,240 years as Speaker and everybody's blaming 138 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:37,340 him for things that aren't really his 139 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:39,650 fault I mean in 2010 half of the 140 00:05:43,210 --> 00:05:41,570 Republican Party became his people that 141 00:05:45,970 --> 00:05:43,220 know very little about governing and 142 00:05:47,860 --> 00:05:45,980 they'll pick a topic so like last year 143 00:05:49,660 --> 00:05:47,870 or two years ago it was Obamacare they 144 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:49,670 just had to repeal it and now it's 145 00:05:52,570 --> 00:05:51,050 Planned Parenthood they want to defund 146 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:52,580 it but they'll pick something and 147 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:54,650 they're willing to go to the brink to 148 00:05:58,330 --> 00:05:56,810 get their way and it's just a really 149 00:06:00,280 --> 00:05:58,340 reckless way of governing and so he's 150 00:06:01,810 --> 00:06:00,290 been in this position I'm trying to hold 151 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:01,820 together not only the party but also 152 00:06:05,980 --> 00:06:03,410 keep Congress functioning and it's just 153 00:06:07,570 --> 00:06:05,990 really hard and my take on it is that he 154 00:06:09,010 --> 00:06:07,580 just quit you know there might be some 155 00:06:10,840 --> 00:06:09,020 kind of scandal that we don't know about 156 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:10,850 yet but the reason I don't really think 157 00:06:15,010 --> 00:06:13,010 that's the case is that after he 158 00:06:17,620 --> 00:06:15,020 resigned he threw a party they were 159 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:17,630 calling it the Boehner land bash and he 160 00:06:21,700 --> 00:06:20,090 had cases of beer and pizza and all this 161 00:06:23,740 --> 00:06:21,710 stuff delivered and they partied until 162 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:23,750 the middle of the night so this isn't a 163 00:06:28,300 --> 00:06:26,210 man who's going out like in shame he's 164 00:06:30,460 --> 00:06:28,310 like a second semester senior a weight 165 00:06:32,230 --> 00:06:30,470 off his shoulder he's throwing a party I 166 00:06:34,540 --> 00:06:32,240 think he's just done and he's going to 167 00:06:36,550 --> 00:06:34,550 make so much money as a lobbyist someday 168 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:36,560 and so I think she's just served his 169 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:38,330 time he's amassed as much power as he 170 00:06:42,850 --> 00:06:39,890 needs to to go into the private sector 171 00:06:43,870 --> 00:06:42,860 and make boatloads and I don't really 172 00:06:45,730 --> 00:06:43,880 blame him for getting out of this 173 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:45,740 situation it was just an ugly job to 174 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:48,110 have right it's selfish though I do have 175 00:06:51,670 --> 00:06:50,210 to say that like leaving at this time is 176 00:06:52,840 --> 00:06:51,680 just not good for the country because I 177 00:06:55,750 --> 00:06:52,850 don't know who's gonna hold it together 178 00:06:57,970 --> 00:06:55,760 better than he did well you know I think 179 00:06:59,740 --> 00:06:57,980 all these guys are pretty selfish to a 180 00:07:01,840 --> 00:06:59,750 degree I think that's why they get 181 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:01,850 involved or even if they start in 182 00:07:05,390 --> 00:07:04,010 government for the right reasons 183 00:07:07,850 --> 00:07:05,400 there's so many 184 00:07:09,890 --> 00:07:07,860 and nobody stays informed enough to hold 185 00:07:12,650 --> 00:07:09,900 them accountable so they just think let 186 00:07:13,879 --> 00:07:12,660 me grab what I can while I'm here but I 187 00:07:17,060 --> 00:07:13,889 sometimes have to laugh at these 188 00:07:19,219 --> 00:07:17,070 politicians who are 50 60 years old and 189 00:07:21,950 --> 00:07:19,229 they're already multimillionaires yet 190 00:07:24,110 --> 00:07:21,960 they still have to go and clock in every 191 00:07:26,090 --> 00:07:24,120 day they still have to go to meetings 192 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:26,100 they're still on the treadmill and I say 193 00:07:30,020 --> 00:07:27,990 the same thing about the Rockefellers I 194 00:07:31,850 --> 00:07:30,030 mean David Rockefeller is a hundred 195 00:07:33,650 --> 00:07:31,860 years old and he's still apparently 196 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:33,660 involved in these high-level backdoor 197 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:36,690 meetings it's like just go home man just 198 00:07:40,790 --> 00:07:39,090 retire and relax yeah that's what I 199 00:07:42,590 --> 00:07:40,800 would do but I guess we don't understand 200 00:07:45,050 --> 00:07:42,600 the mindset of the rich and the powerful 201 00:07:46,340 --> 00:07:45,060 right well maybe it is that ego they 202 00:07:49,189 --> 00:07:46,350 just can't give up the addiction to 203 00:07:50,719 --> 00:07:49,199 power I guess but last time we talked 204 00:07:52,790 --> 00:07:50,729 you really were the one who put the 205 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:52,800 trans-pacific partnership on my radar 206 00:07:56,930 --> 00:07:54,930 which to remind the people is a trade 207 00:07:58,850 --> 00:07:56,940 agreement that gives unprecedented 208 00:08:01,159 --> 00:07:58,860 levels of power to the big multinational 209 00:08:03,740 --> 00:08:01,169 corporations and puts their profits over 210 00:08:06,020 --> 00:08:03,750 the laws and regulations of a nation it 211 00:08:08,150 --> 00:08:06,030 is pretty creepy stuff I'm definitely 212 00:08:11,210 --> 00:08:08,160 more educated on it now than I was then 213 00:08:13,939 --> 00:08:11,220 but I'm still a bit hazy on the state of 214 00:08:15,860 --> 00:08:13,949 the TPP where is it in the process of 215 00:08:18,230 --> 00:08:15,870 actually becoming law you know it's 216 00:08:19,850 --> 00:08:18,240 really not that much different the TPP 217 00:08:21,409 --> 00:08:19,860 itself than it was last year because 218 00:08:23,330 --> 00:08:21,419 they haven't worked out a lot of 219 00:08:24,740 --> 00:08:23,340 provisions there's um there's countries 220 00:08:26,899 --> 00:08:24,750 that are actually fighting back against 221 00:08:29,450 --> 00:08:26,909 things like patents for pharmaceuticals 222 00:08:32,839 --> 00:08:29,460 and there are just issues that haven't 223 00:08:34,820 --> 00:08:32,849 been solved and so the TPP isn't done 224 00:08:36,769 --> 00:08:34,830 yet but it's actually it's in a better 225 00:08:39,019 --> 00:08:36,779 place to become law than it was last 226 00:08:40,909 --> 00:08:39,029 year because our Congress passed 227 00:08:43,010 --> 00:08:40,919 something called fast-track and so what 228 00:08:44,660 --> 00:08:43,020 fast-track does is it allows trade 229 00:08:45,949 --> 00:08:44,670 agreements not only the TPP but also 230 00:08:48,350 --> 00:08:45,959 larger ones that are being negotiated 231 00:08:50,660 --> 00:08:48,360 right now it allows all of them until 232 00:08:53,269 --> 00:08:50,670 probably 2021 to have an easier faster 233 00:08:55,940 --> 00:08:53,279 path towards becoming law so what it 234 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:55,950 does is it says that when it comes up 235 00:09:00,920 --> 00:08:58,080 for a vote Congress is not allowed to 236 00:09:03,110 --> 00:09:00,930 amend it it limits the debate and it's 237 00:09:05,060 --> 00:09:03,120 pretty much like the whole thing passes 238 00:09:06,710 --> 00:09:05,070 or none of it does so it really takes 239 00:09:08,210 --> 00:09:06,720 away Congress's ability to change 240 00:09:10,610 --> 00:09:08,220 anything that's been negotiated by the 241 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:10,620 executive branch and technically it only 242 00:09:15,860 --> 00:09:13,490 goes until July 2018 but the process for 243 00:09:17,510 --> 00:09:15,870 renewing the fast-track is so easy 244 00:09:18,079 --> 00:09:17,520 basically the president just has to 245 00:09:19,549 --> 00:09:18,089 write a 246 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:19,559 and if Congress does nothing it's 247 00:09:23,780 --> 00:09:22,050 extended until 2021 so what that means 248 00:09:25,730 --> 00:09:23,790 is that this easier faster path for 249 00:09:27,710 --> 00:09:25,740 trade agreements is going to be for at 250 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:27,720 least the end of Obama's term for the 251 00:09:31,129 --> 00:09:29,610 entire first term of the next president 252 00:09:33,350 --> 00:09:31,139 and possibly six months of the next 253 00:09:36,079 --> 00:09:33,360 president if the next person who wins is 254 00:09:37,639 --> 00:09:36,089 only a one-term er so this this whole 255 00:09:40,249 --> 00:09:37,649 fast-track thing was a big ol mess and 256 00:09:41,780 --> 00:09:40,259 unfortunately it's now law and so our 257 00:09:43,340 --> 00:09:41,790 Congress really limited their own 258 00:09:45,259 --> 00:09:43,350 ability to do anything about these 259 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:45,269 international treaties other than say no 260 00:09:51,290 --> 00:09:48,410 entirely which so far they've never done 261 00:09:54,049 --> 00:09:51,300 yea these international treaties seem to 262 00:09:56,449 --> 00:09:54,059 be the new battleground and if it wasn't 263 00:09:57,980 --> 00:09:56,459 bad enough with them passing things like 264 00:10:00,110 --> 00:09:57,990 the bailout bill that are you know 265 00:10:01,970 --> 00:10:00,120 hundreds of pages that people can't even 266 00:10:04,759 --> 00:10:01,980 read Congress has told you if this 267 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:04,769 doesn't pass now everybody's screwed and 268 00:10:08,749 --> 00:10:06,569 so of course I like well what can I do 269 00:10:11,059 --> 00:10:08,759 and now they've made that even easier 270 00:10:13,460 --> 00:10:11,069 which is sad but the needle keeps moving 271 00:10:15,980 --> 00:10:13,470 the goalposts keeps getting further away 272 00:10:17,989 --> 00:10:15,990 seems like they're just tiptoeing 273 00:10:19,780 --> 00:10:17,999 towards total control and they're 274 00:10:21,949 --> 00:10:19,790 putting the framework in place right now 275 00:10:23,869 --> 00:10:21,959 yes especially since we've passed 276 00:10:25,910 --> 00:10:23,879 fast-track because fast track isn't just 277 00:10:27,290 --> 00:10:25,920 for TPP it's for any trade agreements 278 00:10:29,419 --> 00:10:27,300 that are being negotiated and so 279 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:29,429 everyone's focusing on TPP which is 280 00:10:34,489 --> 00:10:32,730 involving 12 countries but we're also 281 00:10:36,379 --> 00:10:34,499 negotiating a trade agreement between us 282 00:10:38,389 --> 00:10:36,389 and the European Union and we're also 283 00:10:40,939 --> 00:10:38,399 negotiating one called Tysoe which is 284 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:40,949 between us and the TPP countries and the 285 00:10:45,619 --> 00:10:43,620 European Union countries at my count the 286 00:10:47,090 --> 00:10:45,629 last time I checked it was 52 countries 287 00:10:48,169 --> 00:10:47,100 that are involved in this and no one's 288 00:10:51,169 --> 00:10:48,179 even talking about that trade agreement 289 00:10:52,999 --> 00:10:51,179 and and so what I see happening is that 290 00:10:55,549 --> 00:10:53,009 these trade agreements are creating a 291 00:10:58,879 --> 00:10:55,559 worldwide system for really dealing with 292 00:11:00,799 --> 00:10:58,889 how we interchange money and that's fine 293 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:00,809 you know we do have a global system now 294 00:11:04,369 --> 00:11:02,850 but it matters what the rules are and 295 00:11:06,230 --> 00:11:04,379 that's what's so concerning is that all 296 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:06,240 of these negotiations are happening 297 00:11:12,110 --> 00:11:09,050 behind closed doors and the system that 298 00:11:14,179 --> 00:11:12,120 because that is judge and jury is the 299 00:11:16,669 --> 00:11:14,189 World Trade Organization in their system 300 00:11:18,769 --> 00:11:16,679 which has corporate lawyers serving as 301 00:11:20,299 --> 00:11:18,779 the judges and there's no appeal process 302 00:11:22,460 --> 00:11:20,309 and so there's an undemocratic system 303 00:11:25,129 --> 00:11:22,470 being created in these behind closed 304 00:11:27,710 --> 00:11:25,139 doors negotiations and our Congress is 305 00:11:29,269 --> 00:11:27,720 really surrendering their right to do 306 00:11:31,210 --> 00:11:29,279 anything about it to change the 307 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:31,220 negotiations to make it at any 308 00:11:34,210 --> 00:11:32,930 anymore Democratic to have it be 309 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:34,220 something that's modeled on our own 310 00:11:38,260 --> 00:11:36,410 system so this whole world trade thing 311 00:11:39,910 --> 00:11:38,270 it's being created fast and furiously 312 00:11:41,170 --> 00:11:39,920 and I don't think most of the people in 313 00:11:43,540 --> 00:11:41,180 this country or even in this world 314 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:43,550 really know what's going on we certainly 315 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:45,650 don't know the details right you did an 316 00:11:49,390 --> 00:11:47,330 episode that was really good where you 317 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:49,400 dug super deep into the World Trade 318 00:11:52,990 --> 00:11:50,930 Organization which is important because 319 00:11:55,060 --> 00:11:53,000 it seems like they are able to enact 320 00:11:57,730 --> 00:11:55,070 rules and regulations that are trumping 321 00:12:00,010 --> 00:11:57,740 the laws of countries and US law which 322 00:12:03,730 --> 00:12:00,020 seems pretty one world government II to 323 00:12:06,010 --> 00:12:03,740 me it does and I was called a conspiracy 324 00:12:08,650 --> 00:12:06,020 theorist by one person after that 325 00:12:11,890 --> 00:12:08,660 episode but most of the the reactions 326 00:12:14,050 --> 00:12:11,900 have been pretty good because I I try 327 00:12:16,990 --> 00:12:14,060 and look at facts you know and not 328 00:12:18,370 --> 00:12:17,000 really get let myself go too far down 329 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:18,380 rabbit holes but when it comes to the 330 00:12:22,690 --> 00:12:20,210 World Trade Organization I was looking 331 00:12:25,090 --> 00:12:22,700 at this bill and it was our Congress 332 00:12:27,490 --> 00:12:25,100 repealing our food safety law the one 333 00:12:29,380 --> 00:12:27,500 that when you go and you buy beef or 334 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:29,390 chicken or vegetables or whatever you 335 00:12:32,380 --> 00:12:30,890 can find out what country they come from 336 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:32,390 it's called country of origin labeling 337 00:12:35,350 --> 00:12:34,490 and they're repealing those labels 338 00:12:38,590 --> 00:12:35,360 because the World Trade Organization 339 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:38,600 told them they had to and so when I read 340 00:12:42,820 --> 00:12:40,730 that bill it just led to this whole well 341 00:12:45,010 --> 00:12:42,830 why are we doing something because the 342 00:12:46,450 --> 00:12:45,020 World Trade Organization says so and 343 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:46,460 that's what led me down this rabbit hole 344 00:12:50,170 --> 00:12:47,930 to look into the World Trade 345 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:50,180 Organization where did it come from what 346 00:12:55,590 --> 00:12:52,370 is the system who creates it who runs it 347 00:12:59,080 --> 00:12:55,600 and I didn't really like what I saw and 348 00:13:02,200 --> 00:12:59,090 and so that's that was the second to 349 00:13:03,910 --> 00:13:02,210 last episode and yeah it's all really 350 00:13:06,460 --> 00:13:03,920 fascinating and so when people say new 351 00:13:09,610 --> 00:13:06,470 world order one-world government it's 352 00:13:12,580 --> 00:13:09,620 not a conspiracy theory it's happening 353 00:13:16,420 --> 00:13:12,590 and I and and I think people are 354 00:13:19,540 --> 00:13:16,430 uncomfortable with that reality because 355 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:19,550 it does sound so scary and it does so it 356 00:13:24,550 --> 00:13:21,680 sounds so devious I don't think the 357 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:24,560 people involved are trying to create a 358 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:27,050 bad system but I think that the people 359 00:13:31,210 --> 00:13:28,970 that are creating it are doing so in a 360 00:13:32,530 --> 00:13:31,220 way that really benefits themselves and 361 00:13:34,990 --> 00:13:32,540 benefits the companies that they work 362 00:13:37,180 --> 00:13:35,000 for and really isn't great for all of 363 00:13:38,770 --> 00:13:37,190 the workers so it's not necessarily the 364 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:38,780 fact that a one-world system is being 365 00:13:43,930 --> 00:13:42,050 created that's nefarious we live in a 366 00:13:45,189 --> 00:13:43,940 time now that this podcast can be heard 367 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:45,199 by people all over the 368 00:13:50,379 --> 00:13:47,569 this is one rock that we're all calling 369 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:50,389 home so that's not the issue we all need 370 00:13:54,369 --> 00:13:52,850 rules it matters who's writing them it 371 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:54,379 matters why they're writing them it 372 00:13:57,939 --> 00:13:55,850 matters what the rules are and it 373 00:13:59,739 --> 00:13:57,949 matters what our role in the process is 374 00:14:01,869 --> 00:13:59,749 and in the process of creating these 375 00:14:03,939 --> 00:14:01,879 rules we have no role and we also have 376 00:14:05,530 --> 00:14:03,949 no way to challenge them and so that was 377 00:14:08,349 --> 00:14:05,540 my problem with the world trade system 378 00:14:10,419 --> 00:14:08,359 as I saw it as I researched it it's not 379 00:14:11,530 --> 00:14:10,429 a democratic system it's not based on 380 00:14:13,059 --> 00:14:11,540 the system that we have here in the 381 00:14:14,710 --> 00:14:13,069 United States and it's not something 382 00:14:17,739 --> 00:14:14,720 that I want to see expanded behind 383 00:14:19,659 --> 00:14:17,749 closed doors you know of course not and 384 00:14:21,609 --> 00:14:19,669 that is a criticism I get to is whenever 385 00:14:24,039 --> 00:14:21,619 there's a solution that proposes 386 00:14:27,129 --> 00:14:24,049 bringing people together under sort of 387 00:14:29,109 --> 00:14:27,139 one umbrella everybody and sounds the 388 00:14:30,999 --> 00:14:29,119 alarms and raises the red flags but 389 00:14:33,429 --> 00:14:31,009 you're right that isn't necessarily bad 390 00:14:35,229 --> 00:14:33,439 I mean we are a global community I wish 391 00:14:37,090 --> 00:14:35,239 the world was more like the United 392 00:14:39,069 --> 00:14:37,100 States in the sense that I can live in 393 00:14:40,659 --> 00:14:39,079 Florida and go to Colorado whenever I 394 00:14:43,569 --> 00:14:40,669 want now I don't have to check in with 395 00:14:45,819 --> 00:14:43,579 anybody I don't have to sign any special 396 00:14:47,530 --> 00:14:45,829 documents I just go and the rules in 397 00:14:49,179 --> 00:14:47,540 Florida and the rules in Colorado are 398 00:14:52,090 --> 00:14:49,189 radically different especially if you 399 00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:52,100 like marijuana so I want to see a world 400 00:14:56,289 --> 00:14:54,529 where we can travel freely wherever we 401 00:14:58,030 --> 00:14:56,299 want to go and the only passport we need 402 00:15:00,759 --> 00:14:58,040 is our flesh and blood I'm obviously a 403 00:15:02,619 --> 00:15:00,769 person and why can't I freely travel you 404 00:15:04,689 --> 00:15:02,629 know I like the idea of a one-world 405 00:15:06,669 --> 00:15:04,699 community it's just it really doesn't 406 00:15:09,759 --> 00:15:06,679 matter who is running that community 407 00:15:11,889 --> 00:15:09,769 exactly exactly but there's there's 408 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:11,899 people that just don't even think that 409 00:15:15,909 --> 00:15:13,970 that's happening I think the World Trade 410 00:15:17,470 --> 00:15:15,919 Organization I mean it's new and that's 411 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:17,480 a part that I didn't understand either 412 00:15:24,549 --> 00:15:19,730 the World Trade Organization was not a 413 00:15:27,549 --> 00:15:24,559 thing in 1993 it was greeted like very 414 00:15:29,650 --> 00:15:27,559 recently and so I think that's the part 415 00:15:32,590 --> 00:15:29,660 that kind of blew me away is that this 416 00:15:34,239 --> 00:15:32,600 system is being created not behind 417 00:15:35,379 --> 00:15:34,249 closed doors I mean we knew that this 418 00:15:38,139 --> 00:15:35,389 was happening there was people that 419 00:15:41,169 --> 00:15:38,149 protested it in Seattle it's kind of on 420 00:15:45,069 --> 00:15:41,179 the news but we have so much fluff being 421 00:15:47,169 --> 00:15:45,079 told to us that it's really been that's 422 00:15:49,689 --> 00:15:47,179 the problem with it being done in plain 423 00:15:51,879 --> 00:15:49,699 sight but also kind of hidden because if 424 00:15:53,919 --> 00:15:51,889 you say World Trade Organization and 425 00:15:55,449 --> 00:15:53,929 polite company at a party you're gonna 426 00:15:57,069 --> 00:15:55,459 get a lot of blank stares they either 427 00:15:59,140 --> 00:15:57,079 don't know what it is at all or they 428 00:16:00,880 --> 00:15:59,150 don't understand the significance of it 429 00:16:03,850 --> 00:16:00,890 and so that's one of the problems how do 430 00:16:06,190 --> 00:16:03,860 you change a system or how do you get 431 00:16:08,470 --> 00:16:06,200 your Congress to be more involved in a 432 00:16:10,750 --> 00:16:08,480 system that's being created if you don't 433 00:16:12,310 --> 00:16:10,760 even know it's being created that's part 434 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:12,320 of my frustration I don't necessarily 435 00:16:16,660 --> 00:16:14,810 think that it's it's evil or the people 436 00:16:17,980 --> 00:16:16,670 that are doing it are evil like I just I 437 00:16:21,730 --> 00:16:17,990 don't really believe in evil to begin 438 00:16:24,070 --> 00:16:21,740 with but we are so unaware of what's 439 00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:24,080 happening in the world that we're 440 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:26,000 letting it happen and we're losing our 441 00:16:30,370 --> 00:16:28,610 sovereignty to this system and we're not 442 00:16:32,380 --> 00:16:30,380 even aware of it and our Congress isn't 443 00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:32,390 fighting back what they did when the 444 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:34,160 World Trade Organization ruled against 445 00:16:37,660 --> 00:16:35,930 our country of origin labels is that 446 00:16:39,670 --> 00:16:37,670 they passed a bill to repeal them they 447 00:16:41,470 --> 00:16:39,680 didn't like they didn't go through all 448 00:16:42,970 --> 00:16:41,480 of the appeal processes they didn't get 449 00:16:44,410 --> 00:16:42,980 all of the lawyers and all of the 450 00:16:46,329 --> 00:16:44,420 arguments for our labels they're not 451 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:46,339 fighting for our laws they're just 452 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:48,170 rolling over to the world trade systems 453 00:16:52,630 --> 00:16:51,170 dictates and yeah and I had no idea that 454 00:16:54,610 --> 00:16:52,640 was happening until I started reading 455 00:16:56,170 --> 00:16:54,620 the actual bills I should be able to get 456 00:16:59,350 --> 00:16:56,180 this information by opening a newspaper 457 00:17:01,810 --> 00:16:59,360 and I'm not right you're doing the job 458 00:17:03,610 --> 00:17:01,820 of the entire media establishment when 459 00:17:05,530 --> 00:17:03,620 you're just one person but so this will 460 00:17:07,179 --> 00:17:05,540 this World Trade Organization 461 00:17:08,650 --> 00:17:07,189 who makes up this group I guess it all 462 00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:08,660 started with the Bretton Woods 463 00:17:13,390 --> 00:17:10,130 conference if I'm not mistaken right 464 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:13,400 yeah yeah I did so it was it was 465 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:15,170 basically all the people that won World 466 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:16,970 War two they got together and decided 467 00:17:20,500 --> 00:17:19,250 how we going to run the world which like 468 00:17:23,919 --> 00:17:20,510 I said in the episode is not an 469 00:17:25,419 --> 00:17:23,929 unreasonable thing to do and so they 470 00:17:27,340 --> 00:17:25,429 wanted three things they wanted the 471 00:17:29,110 --> 00:17:27,350 World Bank they wanted the International 472 00:17:31,060 --> 00:17:29,120 Monetary Fund and they wanted an 473 00:17:33,790 --> 00:17:31,070 International Trade Organization 474 00:17:35,410 --> 00:17:33,800 well our Congress didn't go along with 475 00:17:37,930 --> 00:17:35,420 the international trade organization 476 00:17:39,340 --> 00:17:37,940 back in the 1940s and so that's how we 477 00:17:41,110 --> 00:17:39,350 ended up with the World Bank and the 478 00:17:43,210 --> 00:17:41,120 International Monetary Fund but the 479 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:43,220 World Trade Organization which is you 480 00:17:46,990 --> 00:17:45,440 know the next it is the International 481 00:17:49,450 --> 00:17:47,000 Trade Organization with a different word 482 00:17:51,490 --> 00:17:49,460 as the first the first word but we 483 00:17:54,220 --> 00:17:51,500 didn't get that until 1994 because our 484 00:17:55,900 --> 00:17:54,230 Congress back in the 1940s was aware of 485 00:17:57,790 --> 00:17:55,910 what we were signing on to we were 486 00:17:59,200 --> 00:17:57,800 signing on to a world system that 487 00:18:01,810 --> 00:17:59,210 affected our sovereignty and our 488 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:01,820 Congress said no and so once all of 489 00:18:05,710 --> 00:18:03,200 those people were out of office and we 490 00:18:07,360 --> 00:18:05,720 have these new people they said yes in 491 00:18:10,510 --> 00:18:07,370 the 1990s and Bill Clinton signed it 492 00:18:12,490 --> 00:18:10,520 into law but yeah it all started around 493 00:18:16,690 --> 00:18:12,500 the same time as a lot 494 00:18:18,250 --> 00:18:16,700 creepy stuff yeah it all lines up it's 495 00:18:19,990 --> 00:18:18,260 kind of fascinating isn't it right I 496 00:18:22,180 --> 00:18:20,000 mean the International Monetary Fund 497 00:18:23,710 --> 00:18:22,190 comes up here quite often I have a lot 498 00:18:26,050 --> 00:18:23,720 of guests talking about that it is a 499 00:18:27,670 --> 00:18:26,060 little bit creepy because over half the 500 00:18:29,410 --> 00:18:27,680 nations of the planet are in debt to it 501 00:18:31,150 --> 00:18:29,420 and of course they have ridiculous 502 00:18:33,250 --> 00:18:31,160 interest rates and fees you can never 503 00:18:34,930 --> 00:18:33,260 really repay they've got the world by 504 00:18:36,180 --> 00:18:34,940 the balls it seems as long as we're 505 00:18:38,170 --> 00:18:36,190 playing by the rules of green paper 506 00:18:40,570 --> 00:18:38,180 that's a really good way to put it and 507 00:18:42,550 --> 00:18:40,580 the International Monetary Fund they 508 00:18:44,470 --> 00:18:42,560 don't just give out loans they always 509 00:18:46,060 --> 00:18:44,480 have conditions on these loans that 510 00:18:48,010 --> 00:18:46,070 these countries change their economic 511 00:18:50,290 --> 00:18:48,020 laws to match the world trade system so 512 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:50,300 it all is connected you know if you need 513 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:51,530 money and you go to the International 514 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:52,880 Monetary Fund they're gonna say okay you 515 00:18:56,290 --> 00:18:54,530 can have it but you have to privatize 516 00:18:59,560 --> 00:18:56,300 your airports in your ports and your 517 00:19:00,880 --> 00:18:59,570 banks and you know that's all it's all 518 00:19:02,890 --> 00:19:00,890 working for the same thing and 519 00:19:05,410 --> 00:19:02,900 unfortunately I do think that the system 520 00:19:07,390 --> 00:19:05,420 is run by the owners of multinational 521 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:07,400 corporations that they don't really care 522 00:19:10,900 --> 00:19:08,810 about countries and they're not too 523 00:19:13,930 --> 00:19:10,910 concerned about workers conditions you 524 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:13,940 know we're just we're labor you know 525 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:16,730 we're not people so they're not really 526 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:18,890 trying to make everything great and 527 00:19:24,370 --> 00:19:20,810 harmonious for all of the people they're 528 00:19:26,950 --> 00:19:24,380 trying to make the laws open to for 529 00:19:29,020 --> 00:19:26,960 business in every company and and sorry 530 00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:29,030 in every country and make it easier for 531 00:19:36,730 --> 00:19:34,750 audience lips I know they're trying to 532 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:36,740 make it easier for these companies to go 533 00:19:41,470 --> 00:19:39,170 into any country that they wish extract 534 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:41,480 the national resources use the labor 535 00:19:45,100 --> 00:19:43,130 first cheap as possible make as much 536 00:19:47,230 --> 00:19:45,110 money as possible and have as few rules 537 00:19:49,360 --> 00:19:47,240 as possible that's not a world system 538 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:49,370 that I think is designed for us and when 539 00:19:53,200 --> 00:19:50,930 I look at this system that they're 540 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:53,210 creating that seems to be the effect if 541 00:19:56,020 --> 00:19:54,530 not the intent I mean I don't know what 542 00:19:58,450 --> 00:19:56,030 their intent was but that's what the 543 00:20:00,550 --> 00:19:58,460 effect is we've had enough years we've 544 00:20:02,350 --> 00:20:00,560 had enough experience in looking at what 545 00:20:04,450 --> 00:20:02,360 the International Monetary Fund does to 546 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:04,460 know what the results are going to be 547 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:06,170 and it's going to be privatization and 548 00:20:11,830 --> 00:20:09,170 lower wages and in the United States I 549 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:11,840 mean we had a lot of laws protecting our 550 00:20:14,710 --> 00:20:13,490 wages and giving us a health care and so 551 00:20:16,860 --> 00:20:14,720 that's why you're seeing companies 552 00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:16,870 moving overseas that's what opening 553 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:19,910 borders and lowering trade barriers is 554 00:20:24,220 --> 00:20:22,370 all about it's making easier for these 555 00:20:26,169 --> 00:20:24,230 companies to make money and not do it 556 00:20:27,669 --> 00:20:26,179 with our labor if they're selling us 557 00:20:29,019 --> 00:20:27,679 here in the United States it's it's 558 00:20:32,649 --> 00:20:29,029 disturbing if you're a United States 559 00:20:34,239 --> 00:20:32,659 citizen yeah it really is and you know 560 00:20:36,460 --> 00:20:34,249 this is something I thought we were past 561 00:20:38,859 --> 00:20:36,470 but I do get people who write me still 562 00:20:40,899 --> 00:20:38,869 and ask if I support Hillary Clinton and 563 00:20:42,810 --> 00:20:40,909 they kind of ride me as if they assumed 564 00:20:46,180 --> 00:20:42,820 that I would and I don't know where 565 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:46,190 anybody gets that but since Bill Clinton 566 00:20:50,139 --> 00:20:47,450 did sign the World Trade Organization 567 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:50,149 into law I mean how in bed with them is 568 00:20:54,519 --> 00:20:50,690 Hillary 569 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:54,529 oh she's she is negotiating the 570 00:20:58,419 --> 00:20:56,210 trans-pacific partnership as Secretary 571 00:21:00,999 --> 00:20:58,429 of State in fact in my world trade 572 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:01,009 episode I really have been trying to 573 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:02,570 stay out of the 2016 presidential 574 00:21:06,609 --> 00:21:04,730 election it's not for a year and a half 575 00:21:09,489 --> 00:21:06,619 I don't care when it comes to Hillary 576 00:21:11,379 --> 00:21:09,499 Clinton while I was researching that she 577 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:11,389 said I had nothing to do with the TPP 578 00:21:16,180 --> 00:21:13,970 and I had a clip of her in Singapore 579 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:16,190 with the president of Singapore and all 580 00:21:19,869 --> 00:21:17,570 of their most important politicians 581 00:21:21,369 --> 00:21:19,879 pushing the TPP I mean this woman was 582 00:21:25,289 --> 00:21:21,379 Secretary of State she was the highest 583 00:21:27,609 --> 00:21:25,299 diplomat that we have and she was 584 00:21:28,899 --> 00:21:27,619 negotiating with these with this other 585 00:21:30,970 --> 00:21:28,909 company or with this other country 586 00:21:34,269 --> 00:21:30,980 saying this is good for you this is what 587 00:21:35,710 --> 00:21:34,279 we're trying to do she's a liar and so 588 00:21:37,810 --> 00:21:35,720 she is definitely on board at these 589 00:21:40,269 --> 00:21:37,820 trade agreements her husband signed not 590 00:21:42,909 --> 00:21:40,279 only NAFTA into law but also the World 591 00:21:45,789 --> 00:21:42,919 Trade Organization this family is deeply 592 00:21:47,769 --> 00:21:45,799 involved in this and so for anyone to 593 00:21:50,529 --> 00:21:47,779 think that Hillary Clinton is going to 594 00:21:53,139 --> 00:21:50,539 fight it it's insane like no they're 595 00:21:54,940 --> 00:21:53,149 definitely involved right people like 596 00:21:56,499 --> 00:21:54,950 her because she has a D next to her name 597 00:21:58,419 --> 00:21:56,509 because she's a Democrat and it's like 598 00:21:59,889 --> 00:21:58,429 these parties don't mean anything either 599 00:22:01,419 --> 00:21:59,899 cuz the Democrats have signed these 600 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:01,429 trade agreements into law and so of the 601 00:22:04,930 --> 00:22:02,690 Republicans and that's the part that 602 00:22:06,369 --> 00:22:04,940 makes me crazy to partisanship in this 603 00:22:09,039 --> 00:22:06,379 country means Democrat versus Republican 604 00:22:10,330 --> 00:22:09,049 we're not looking at it as people that 605 00:22:11,710 --> 00:22:10,340 are working for multinationals and 606 00:22:13,499 --> 00:22:11,720 people that are working for workers I 607 00:22:16,149 --> 00:22:13,509 think that's really the big divide oh 608 00:22:18,129 --> 00:22:16,159 well said well said I definitely agree 609 00:22:19,810 --> 00:22:18,139 that that is the divide and it is an 610 00:22:21,399 --> 00:22:19,820 interesting side note that Bernie 611 00:22:22,539 --> 00:22:21,409 Sanders is one of the people who did 612 00:22:25,659 --> 00:22:22,549 vote against the World Trade 613 00:22:27,820 --> 00:22:25,669 Organization he's the only one I looked 614 00:22:30,669 --> 00:22:27,830 through all people that are so they're 615 00:22:33,159 --> 00:22:30,679 still in Congress and how they voted in 616 00:22:35,019 --> 00:22:33,169 1994 on the World Trade Organization he 617 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:35,029 was the only person still in Congress 618 00:22:39,670 --> 00:22:37,850 who voted no it's unbelievable like wow 619 00:22:42,970 --> 00:22:39,680 yeah so he's when I go 620 00:22:44,290 --> 00:22:42,980 to the 2016 election I'm he has a very 621 00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:44,300 good chance of getting my vote at least 622 00:22:48,460 --> 00:22:47,120 in the primary because he has stood up 623 00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:48,470 to this system and I'm happy for that 624 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:51,440 yeah and you also did play some pretty 625 00:22:55,630 --> 00:22:53,810 spot-on clips in that episode from Ralph 626 00:22:57,790 --> 00:22:55,640 Nader too he seemed to have been trying 627 00:22:59,070 --> 00:22:57,800 to warn everybody a decade ago but 628 00:23:01,840 --> 00:22:59,080 nobody cared to listen 629 00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:01,850 yeah and that was a surprise cuz all I 630 00:23:06,220 --> 00:23:04,880 did was go on to c-span and pretty much 631 00:23:08,350 --> 00:23:06,230 download anything I could about the 632 00:23:10,180 --> 00:23:08,360 World Trade Organization from 1994 and 633 00:23:12,340 --> 00:23:10,190 he just kept popping up I wasn't looking 634 00:23:14,020 --> 00:23:12,350 for him but he testified to Congress and 635 00:23:15,430 --> 00:23:14,030 he talked on c-span 636 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:15,440 you know they're like Washington Journal 637 00:23:21,220 --> 00:23:18,290 show and he was everywhere and what I 638 00:23:23,980 --> 00:23:21,230 found fascinating is that Steve Spann 639 00:23:25,810 --> 00:23:23,990 invited Ralph Nader and some libertarian 640 00:23:28,150 --> 00:23:25,820 guy from a think-tank and they both 641 00:23:29,530 --> 00:23:28,160 agreed that this was surrendering our 642 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:29,540 sovereignty so this is one of those 643 00:23:33,130 --> 00:23:31,760 issues that isn't partisan you know 644 00:23:35,860 --> 00:23:33,140 people who are paying attention they 645 00:23:38,650 --> 00:23:35,870 knew back then and now that this system 646 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:38,660 Trump's our own so yeah it was 647 00:23:45,670 --> 00:23:41,570 fascinating how all over this he was and 648 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:45,680 that he told a specific story he said 649 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:47,570 this could be the repercussion we might 650 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:49,490 have to repeal our laws and it was 651 00:23:52,750 --> 00:23:51,050 almost exactly what was happening right 652 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:52,760 now with our country of origin labels so 653 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:53,690 when you look at someone say something 654 00:23:59,170 --> 00:23:57,650 20 years ago and they're right I tend to 655 00:24:00,610 --> 00:23:59,180 look to that person again for my 656 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:00,620 information and he's still saying these 657 00:24:05,410 --> 00:24:02,810 trade agreements are a problem right 658 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:05,420 yeah it's got to be so frustrating to be 659 00:24:08,610 --> 00:24:07,250 ahead of the curve like that you got to 660 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:08,620 feel like you're in the twilight zone 661 00:24:13,150 --> 00:24:10,970 speaking out about something that nobody 662 00:24:14,050 --> 00:24:13,160 seems to care about everybody's eyes 663 00:24:16,120 --> 00:24:14,060 glaze over 664 00:24:18,010 --> 00:24:16,130 that's definitely frustrating another 665 00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:18,020 big example you could point to you to 666 00:24:24,430 --> 00:24:20,480 where we're seeing corporations Trump 667 00:24:26,050 --> 00:24:24,440 Nations in power is Philip Morris I mean 668 00:24:27,550 --> 00:24:26,060 Philip Morris a cigarette company right 669 00:24:29,050 --> 00:24:27,560 now I think they're suing two or three 670 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:29,060 different countries because they say 671 00:24:33,130 --> 00:24:31,010 these countries put so many regulations 672 00:24:35,620 --> 00:24:33,140 on cigarettes so many regulations on 673 00:24:37,420 --> 00:24:35,630 their marketing that it's hurt sales and 674 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:37,430 you can't make regulation that hurts 675 00:24:42,250 --> 00:24:40,490 corporate sales and that is asinine I 676 00:24:44,350 --> 00:24:42,260 mean that's ridiculous but that battle 677 00:24:46,030 --> 00:24:44,360 is playing out right now - yeah and 678 00:24:49,210 --> 00:24:46,040 that's all because of trade agreements 679 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:49,220 it was Australia that put a plain 680 00:24:52,510 --> 00:24:51,110 packaging law into place and so if you 681 00:24:53,529 --> 00:24:52,520 buy cigarettes in Australia it's not 682 00:24:55,330 --> 00:24:53,539 going to come with like 683 00:24:57,820 --> 00:24:55,340 happy camel on the front it's going to 684 00:25:00,609 --> 00:24:57,830 have clean packaging or it's going to 685 00:25:03,519 --> 00:25:00,619 have pictures of lung cancer and and 686 00:25:05,169 --> 00:25:03,529 that was Australia's law so Philip 687 00:25:06,070 --> 00:25:05,179 Morris is technically an American 688 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:06,080 company but we all know they're 689 00:25:09,639 --> 00:25:08,090 multinational and so they used a trade 690 00:25:12,849 --> 00:25:09,649 agreement that Australia had signed with 691 00:25:15,159 --> 00:25:12,859 China and got China to sue in the World 692 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:15,169 Trade Organization system we got China 693 00:25:18,940 --> 00:25:17,450 to sue Australia against these these 694 00:25:20,830 --> 00:25:18,950 plain packaging laws and I think the 695 00:25:23,049 --> 00:25:20,840 lawsuits are still ongoing but that's 696 00:25:24,460 --> 00:25:23,059 exactly the point that this is something 697 00:25:26,259 --> 00:25:24,470 that is for public health and safety 698 00:25:28,539 --> 00:25:26,269 it's to tell teenagers who are thinking 699 00:25:29,950 --> 00:25:28,549 about smoking cigarettes hey these are 700 00:25:33,549 --> 00:25:29,960 the repercussions of it on the actual 701 00:25:35,349 --> 00:25:33,559 labels and in Australia's sovereignty to 702 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:35,359 determine their own laws and determine 703 00:25:38,979 --> 00:25:37,129 what's going to be on their the products 704 00:25:41,139 --> 00:25:38,989 sold to their kids that's being 705 00:25:43,599 --> 00:25:41,149 challenged right now in this system that 706 00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:43,609 we are actively expanding and so one of 707 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:45,200 the countries that is slowing down the 708 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:47,690 TPP is Australia they are concerned 709 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:50,090 about signing more of these as they 710 00:25:55,749 --> 00:25:53,330 should be yeah they should man when you 711 00:25:57,729 --> 00:25:55,759 see the depth of this corruption and the 712 00:25:59,649 --> 00:25:57,739 corruption in the voting system if you 713 00:26:01,810 --> 00:25:59,659 could mobilize people where would you 714 00:26:04,299 --> 00:26:01,820 focus their efforts to unravel some of 715 00:26:06,549 --> 00:26:04,309 this the House of Representatives hands 716 00:26:07,930 --> 00:26:06,559 down because in our system the House of 717 00:26:09,549 --> 00:26:07,940 Representatives was always the one that 718 00:26:11,950 --> 00:26:09,559 was supposed to represent the people and 719 00:26:13,930 --> 00:26:11,960 it's the most local I think every 720 00:26:15,549 --> 00:26:13,940 representative represents I think two 721 00:26:17,169 --> 00:26:15,559 hundred and eighty five thousand people 722 00:26:18,849 --> 00:26:17,179 which sounds like a lot but compared to 723 00:26:20,859 --> 00:26:18,859 the presidency that we're all paying so 724 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:20,869 much attention to that's the person that 725 00:26:26,529 --> 00:26:22,609 cares most about you because your vote 726 00:26:28,509 --> 00:26:26,539 counts the most to them and so I would 727 00:26:30,009 --> 00:26:28,519 love to get people to shift their focus 728 00:26:31,539 --> 00:26:30,019 from the presidency to the House of 729 00:26:34,089 --> 00:26:31,549 Representatives because that's the 730 00:26:36,580 --> 00:26:34,099 person that you can reach the easiest 731 00:26:38,409 --> 00:26:36,590 and that is the branch that controls the 732 00:26:40,149 --> 00:26:38,419 money there's nothing that can be done 733 00:26:42,339 --> 00:26:40,159 in this country without the House of 734 00:26:44,109 --> 00:26:42,349 Representatives appropriating cash to 735 00:26:45,549 --> 00:26:44,119 that to that cause and so if you want to 736 00:26:47,799 --> 00:26:45,559 change what's going on in this country 737 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:47,809 that's how you do it also the House of 738 00:26:52,029 --> 00:26:50,090 Representatives you can fire every one 739 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:52,039 of them every two years the fact that I 740 00:26:56,019 --> 00:26:53,450 don't think a lot of people are aware of 741 00:26:57,369 --> 00:26:56,029 that every one of them is up for 742 00:26:59,379 --> 00:26:57,379 election every two years and so they're 743 00:27:02,169 --> 00:26:59,389 constantly trying to get your vote and 744 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:02,179 it's also the fastest path for change so 745 00:27:05,169 --> 00:27:04,129 if we could spread this idea that we get 746 00:27:07,540 --> 00:27:05,179 new people in the House of 747 00:27:10,120 --> 00:27:07,550 Representatives it's a two-year turner 748 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:10,130 we really don't need to wait as long as 749 00:27:12,910 --> 00:27:11,570 we do for the presidency and in the 750 00:27:14,710 --> 00:27:12,920 Senate they are elected every six years 751 00:27:17,380 --> 00:27:14,720 but in the House of Representatives we 752 00:27:18,910 --> 00:27:17,390 can make a very big change very fast and 753 00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:18,920 the people could control the money again 754 00:27:23,290 --> 00:27:20,720 if we just started paying attention our 755 00:27:26,230 --> 00:27:23,300 own representatives and voting we're not 756 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:26,240 voting so that's where I would focus my 757 00:27:28,570 --> 00:27:27,770 attention and that's why I focus my 758 00:27:31,030 --> 00:27:28,580 attention on the House of 759 00:27:33,490 --> 00:27:31,040 Representatives in the last six months I 760 00:27:35,260 --> 00:27:33,500 I have started reading the bills that 761 00:27:39,010 --> 00:27:35,270 passed the Senate too luckily for me 762 00:27:39,970 --> 00:27:39,020 they don't do much work but I focus very 763 00:27:45,850 --> 00:27:39,980 hard in the House of Representatives 764 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:45,860 that's still my my boo and and that's 765 00:27:49,660 --> 00:27:47,570 the reason because that is where we can 766 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:49,670 affect the most change federally the 767 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:52,250 most efficiently yeah I think you're 768 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:53,690 right and it's kind of funny because all 769 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:55,010 the time we talk about all these things 770 00:27:58,150 --> 00:27:56,330 going wrong and people like what do we 771 00:27:59,560 --> 00:27:58,160 do what do we do and you say something 772 00:28:00,910 --> 00:27:59,570 like that to say something like get 773 00:28:02,140 --> 00:28:00,920 involved in government people like oh 774 00:28:04,450 --> 00:28:02,150 don't give me that we need to actually 775 00:28:06,730 --> 00:28:04,460 fix things and I mean how else are you 776 00:28:08,860 --> 00:28:06,740 gonna do it you have to somewhat get 777 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:08,870 involved I heard your interview with 778 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:10,850 Jack Abramoff one of the most famous DC 779 00:28:14,290 --> 00:28:12,170 lobbyists and that was pretty insightful 780 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:14,300 and even he said from the horse's mouth 781 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:17,450 directly he said that making calls to 782 00:28:22,030 --> 00:28:19,730 your Congressman really does make a 783 00:28:24,190 --> 00:28:22,040 difference it makes the lobbyists job a 784 00:28:26,980 --> 00:28:24,200 lot harder and that's from one of the 785 00:28:29,530 --> 00:28:26,990 premier guys so take his advice and make 786 00:28:31,690 --> 00:28:29,540 their jobs harder people absolutely 787 00:28:33,130 --> 00:28:31,700 absolutely and that was that was great 788 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:33,140 to hear because I had always suspected 789 00:28:38,260 --> 00:28:35,330 that but to hear it from Jack himself 790 00:28:40,919 --> 00:28:38,270 was it was amazing and it made me feel 791 00:28:44,830 --> 00:28:40,929 empowered I also you asked him about 792 00:28:46,990 --> 00:28:44,840 being friendly with these politicians 793 00:28:50,590 --> 00:28:47,000 and I loved his term well it's a 794 00:28:52,390 --> 00:28:50,600 friendship of convenience yeah but it 795 00:28:55,180 --> 00:28:52,400 makes perfect sense because the minute 796 00:28:56,590 --> 00:28:55,190 he got in trouble everybody turned their 797 00:28:57,880 --> 00:28:56,600 back on him and I know I mean you have 798 00:29:00,010 --> 00:28:57,890 to remember Jack Abramoff is still a 799 00:29:02,110 --> 00:29:00,020 person and he was trading on his 800 00:29:03,940 --> 00:29:02,120 friendships and when those friendships 801 00:29:05,950 --> 00:29:03,950 dissolved so quickly and there were so 802 00:29:08,830 --> 00:29:05,960 many people trashing him I think he was 803 00:29:11,049 --> 00:29:08,840 personally hurt by that you know and he 804 00:29:13,690 --> 00:29:11,059 said so in other interviews but yeah 805 00:29:15,549 --> 00:29:13,700 it's a it's a dirty business right now 806 00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:15,559 in politics I don't think it has to be 807 00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:17,600 that way but the way that it's done with 808 00:29:21,460 --> 00:29:20,210 the with the exchange of money being 809 00:29:24,549 --> 00:29:21,470 what people think 810 00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:24,559 matters I think that's what's made it so 811 00:29:28,779 --> 00:29:26,510 ugly but it's not the money that matters 812 00:29:30,940 --> 00:29:28,789 you have to remember when a corporation 813 00:29:32,380 --> 00:29:30,950 or a rich person or whoever gives money 814 00:29:34,810 --> 00:29:32,390 to a politician well what do they use 815 00:29:35,890 --> 00:29:34,820 that money for they're using it to court 816 00:29:37,539 --> 00:29:35,900 your vote they're using it for 817 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:37,549 advertisements they're using it for that 818 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:40,010 crap they send you in the mail yes they 819 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:41,570 are throwing themselves open bar parties 820 00:29:45,310 --> 00:29:42,770 but those are mainly to get more money 821 00:29:46,630 --> 00:29:45,320 but really the goal of all the money the 822 00:29:49,210 --> 00:29:46,640 reason that we think Hillary Clinton 823 00:29:50,860 --> 00:29:49,220 making 28 million dollars last month was 824 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:50,870 such a big deal is because she can 825 00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:53,090 afford more ad time she can afford more 826 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:56,480 stuff in the mail so what that tells me 827 00:30:00,310 --> 00:29:58,130 is that they're still just courting your 828 00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:00,320 votes you know she thought she had it in 829 00:30:04,380 --> 00:30:03,590 the bag in 2008 but we voted for Barack 830 00:30:07,450 --> 00:30:04,390 Obama 831 00:30:08,830 --> 00:30:07,460 remember how long she held on like she 832 00:30:12,730 --> 00:30:08,840 just wouldn't let it go she's like but 833 00:30:14,350 --> 00:30:12,740 we it's my turn but US voters we were 834 00:30:16,659 --> 00:30:14,360 the ones who decided who that president 835 00:30:19,570 --> 00:30:16,669 was not the money because she did have 836 00:30:21,909 --> 00:30:19,580 more money so yeah it's still it's all 837 00:30:23,500 --> 00:30:21,919 about our votes it really is and the 838 00:30:24,730 --> 00:30:23,510 other thing that I want to emphasize is 839 00:30:26,230 --> 00:30:24,740 there's a lot of people I hear it all 840 00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:26,240 the time that say well government is the 841 00:30:30,070 --> 00:30:27,520 problem I don't want to participate 842 00:30:33,279 --> 00:30:30,080 government is a tool it's not a problem 843 00:30:35,529 --> 00:30:33,289 government is the most powerful tool 844 00:30:37,299 --> 00:30:35,539 that we have to change our society and 845 00:30:39,100 --> 00:30:37,309 so if you're allowing other people to 846 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:39,110 use that tool and you're just sitting 847 00:30:42,909 --> 00:30:41,330 back well then whatever they build is 848 00:30:45,730 --> 00:30:42,919 what you're going to get if you're not 849 00:30:48,460 --> 00:30:45,740 chipping in and using it yourself you 850 00:30:50,590 --> 00:30:48,470 have no control so allowing other people 851 00:30:52,450 --> 00:30:50,600 to use government that's not the way to 852 00:30:55,299 --> 00:30:52,460 do this you have to think about it in 853 00:30:57,010 --> 00:30:55,309 that you get a piece you know like you 854 00:30:58,270 --> 00:30:57,020 get to hold on to a little piece of this 855 00:30:59,919 --> 00:30:58,280 government that changes your whole 856 00:31:01,899 --> 00:30:59,929 society and if you just surrender that 857 00:31:04,450 --> 00:31:01,909 well you're gonna get what other people 858 00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:04,460 want it's it's not wise to let other 859 00:31:08,830 --> 00:31:07,039 people control it it's not and that 860 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:08,840 sounds so obvious but a lot of us are 861 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:11,210 ignorant and apathetic which plays right 862 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:13,010 into their hands but another thing 863 00:31:17,470 --> 00:31:15,650 critics of voting would say is how much 864 00:31:19,419 --> 00:31:17,480 control do we really have when an 865 00:31:22,149 --> 00:31:19,429 unaccountable private company like 866 00:31:24,430 --> 00:31:22,159 Diebold makes the voting machines it's 867 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:24,440 true but even that like Diebold is able 868 00:31:28,750 --> 00:31:26,690 to have electronic voting machines all 869 00:31:31,180 --> 00:31:28,760 over the country because we have and we 870 00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:31,190 have hired people to make the laws who 871 00:31:34,770 --> 00:31:33,470 made that legal so if we change the 872 00:31:36,270 --> 00:31:34,780 house of representatives 873 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:36,280 first of all we're not going to give any 874 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:39,010 money to the debone machines we could 875 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:42,010 easily say that every ballot in this 876 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:43,930 country needs to be a paper countable 877 00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:46,570 ballot this is all stuff that can be 878 00:31:50,190 --> 00:31:48,220 changed anything that's done can be 879 00:31:52,470 --> 00:31:50,200 easily undone especially when you 880 00:31:53,910 --> 00:31:52,480 control the money and so all these 881 00:31:55,740 --> 00:31:53,920 things that we're mad about when we say 882 00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:55,750 oh this government so out of control 883 00:31:59,550 --> 00:31:58,000 we've allowed it to get out of control 884 00:32:02,130 --> 00:31:59,560 we've allowed people that are 885 00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:02,140 untrustworthy to get control of our 886 00:32:04,530 --> 00:32:04,030 government and the goal now needs to be 887 00:32:08,610 --> 00:32:04,540 fine 888 00:32:10,410 --> 00:32:08,620 to get into office to make things better 889 00:32:12,570 --> 00:32:10,420 and that's the part where I think our 890 00:32:14,370 --> 00:32:12,580 generation in particular is doing a very 891 00:32:15,990 --> 00:32:14,380 poor job as of right now because we're 892 00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:16,000 sitting on the sidelines and the numbers 893 00:32:19,140 --> 00:32:17,710 back me up the people that are voting 894 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:19,150 are the same people have been voting for 895 00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:21,370 40 years the baby boomers and our 896 00:32:23,910 --> 00:32:23,230 grandparents generation we're still not 897 00:32:26,010 --> 00:32:23,920 showing up 898 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:26,020 um I mean Greg we're both in California 899 00:32:30,450 --> 00:32:28,570 people under the age of 22 so like 900 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:30,460 college age people 18 to 22 901 00:32:35,670 --> 00:32:33,730 we had an 8% turnout rate for those 902 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:35,680 people in the last election 903 00:32:41,790 --> 00:32:38,410 so that's depressing on one hand but 904 00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:41,800 it's also a huge untapped voting bloc so 905 00:32:45,570 --> 00:32:43,840 if those 92 percent that just did 906 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:45,580 nothing in the last election if they 907 00:32:51,990 --> 00:32:48,490 actually showed up that's a lot of votes 908 00:32:53,310 --> 00:32:52,000 for other people so good I actually have 909 00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:53,320 a ton of hope now that I actually know 910 00:32:56,610 --> 00:32:55,270 the numbers and now that I know how few 911 00:32:57,870 --> 00:32:56,620 of us do vote because it means that the 912 00:32:59,370 --> 00:32:57,880 people that are sitting on the sidelines 913 00:33:02,130 --> 00:32:59,380 can jump in and make a huge huge 914 00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:02,140 difference that is true and you can be 915 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:04,180 very inspirational on these kinds of 916 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:06,490 things you make it seem very hopeful and 917 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:10,930 very easy it is easy voting so easy like 918 00:33:15,660 --> 00:33:13,330 you just okay you can go online right 919 00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:15,670 now to the USPS which is the US Post 920 00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:18,190 Office go online and register to vote 921 00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:20,110 it'll cost you a dollar you can do it by 922 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:21,760 changing your address which is probably 923 00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:23,290 the easiest way it cost you a dollar and 924 00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:24,640 even if you haven't moved just change 925 00:33:27,060 --> 00:33:25,870 your address to what you currently have 926 00:33:28,770 --> 00:33:27,070 the post office doesn't pay that much 927 00:33:30,510 --> 00:33:28,780 attention and then you're registered to 928 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:30,520 vote in your district and you'll get 929 00:33:34,860 --> 00:33:31,930 something in the mail which tells you 930 00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:34,870 where to go you take an hour on one 931 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:37,600 Tuesday every two years and you vote 932 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:40,690 it's that easy it really isn't that hard 933 00:33:44,310 --> 00:33:42,490 you don't have to give money to 934 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:44,320 politicians you don't have to be the 935 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:45,730 person that stands outside with the 936 00:33:48,540 --> 00:33:47,650 petitions like you can be involved 937 00:33:50,910 --> 00:33:48,550 without make 938 00:33:53,910 --> 00:33:50,920 your whole life but if you don't vote 939 00:33:56,010 --> 00:33:53,920 you're hurting us you know and it's it 940 00:33:57,810 --> 00:33:56,020 is lazy I have no excuses for people 941 00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:57,820 that say they can't vote because it is 942 00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:01,120 incredibly easy to do yeah I mean there 943 00:34:06,020 --> 00:34:03,910 it is so outside of these treaties and 944 00:34:08,490 --> 00:34:06,030 fast-track and secret backdoor 945 00:34:10,890 --> 00:34:08,500 agreements where else do we see these 946 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:10,900 people sidestepping traditional checks 947 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:13,690 and balances lately I mean honestly I 948 00:34:18,150 --> 00:34:16,570 haven't seen too much overt corruption 949 00:34:20,070 --> 00:34:18,160 it's just the stuff that I'm finding in 950 00:34:21,990 --> 00:34:20,080 the bills where they'll pass a bill and 951 00:34:24,270 --> 00:34:22,000 it's just so clearly for a company that 952 00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:24,280 has given them money like it's amazing 953 00:34:28,410 --> 00:34:26,260 how consistent it is that I look at a 954 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:28,420 bill and say well who would benefit from 955 00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:30,490 this Oh an oil and gas company and then 956 00:34:34,710 --> 00:34:33,520 you look up the guys donations and oh 957 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:34,720 look at his number one contributing 958 00:34:37,740 --> 00:34:36,010 industry it's oil and gas I mean it 959 00:34:39,990 --> 00:34:37,750 happens all the time 960 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:40,000 although oil and gas has gotten less 961 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:41,770 loved with this Congress and they did in 962 00:34:45,180 --> 00:34:43,690 the last one it's the banking industry 963 00:34:47,340 --> 00:34:45,190 that is making out like bandits right 964 00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:47,350 now Wall Street is just they're doing 965 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:49,630 all kinds of deregulation and what's 966 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:53,770 concerning is that we're recording this 967 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:56,650 on October 2nd on September 30th our 968 00:34:58,980 --> 00:34:57,970 government basically ran out of money 969 00:35:00,450 --> 00:34:58,990 and so they did something called a 970 00:35:02,550 --> 00:35:00,460 continuing resolution which means that 971 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:02,560 they take the funding for 2015 and 972 00:35:08,490 --> 00:35:05,890 extend it into the 2016 fiscal year so 973 00:35:10,380 --> 00:35:08,500 fiscal years start at on October 1st and 974 00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:10,390 go till September 30th of the following 975 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:11,710 year so technically we're already in 976 00:35:17,010 --> 00:35:14,410 2016 so they extended that until 977 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:17,020 December of 2011 well this has happened 978 00:35:21,030 --> 00:35:19,090 year after year after year and so what's 979 00:35:23,070 --> 00:35:21,040 happened every single year is they fund 980 00:35:25,380 --> 00:35:23,080 the entire government with one bill 981 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:25,390 right before Christmas when no one is 982 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:27,250 paying attention and they take these 983 00:35:32,490 --> 00:35:30,010 bills that couldn't get into law because 984 00:35:34,170 --> 00:35:32,500 President Obama has a veto pen they take 985 00:35:35,580 --> 00:35:34,180 these bills which are often favors to 986 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:35,590 Wall Street into all kinds of different 987 00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:37,930 companies they attach it to this big 988 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:39,790 bill that funds the entire government 989 00:35:44,580 --> 00:35:42,490 and then it has to be signed into law so 990 00:35:46,110 --> 00:35:44,590 Obama can either you know fight these 991 00:35:48,630 --> 00:35:46,120 little things that are in it and cause a 992 00:35:50,070 --> 00:35:48,640 shut government shutdown or he signs 993 00:35:51,990 --> 00:35:50,080 things that otherwise would not be 994 00:35:54,270 --> 00:35:52,000 signed into law on their own he signs 995 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:54,280 them into law as like attachments to the 996 00:35:58,050 --> 00:35:56,290 budget and so what we have set up right 997 00:35:59,820 --> 00:35:58,060 now is that our government's only been 998 00:36:02,280 --> 00:35:59,830 funded through December 11th right 999 00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:02,290 before Christmas it's gonna happen again 1000 00:36:06,690 --> 00:36:04,030 so I've seen a lot of bills that have 1001 00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:06,700 gotten veto threats and in general you 1002 00:36:09,570 --> 00:36:07,870 would think oh okay like they're not 1003 00:36:11,700 --> 00:36:09,580 gonna become law but I've seen this 1004 00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:11,710 happen before every year when they fund 1005 00:36:15,090 --> 00:36:13,390 the government they attach stuff to that 1006 00:36:17,490 --> 00:36:15,100 bill and I see that happening again I 1007 00:36:20,370 --> 00:36:17,500 will be absolutely floored if that 1008 00:36:21,870 --> 00:36:20,380 doesn't happen in December right and it 1009 00:36:23,340 --> 00:36:21,880 being December that is an interesting 1010 00:36:24,990 --> 00:36:23,350 point because it is right near the 1011 00:36:28,140 --> 00:36:25,000 holidays where people aren't going to be 1012 00:36:30,150 --> 00:36:28,150 paying attention and we seem like we 1013 00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:30,160 have no power we feel like we have no 1014 00:36:35,250 --> 00:36:32,470 power but if we didn't they wouldn't 1015 00:36:36,980 --> 00:36:35,260 wait for these particular pockets of 1016 00:36:39,690 --> 00:36:36,990 time to push through this stuff 1017 00:36:41,670 --> 00:36:39,700 absolutely absolutely they wouldn't wait 1018 00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:41,680 until Christmas every single year and 1019 00:36:45,030 --> 00:36:43,870 that's the thing like I pay attention to 1020 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:45,040 this stuff closer than pretty much 1021 00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:47,410 anybody and they've gotten stuff past me 1022 00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:49,300 because they passed so many bills it's 1023 00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:51,250 not just the budget they also passed the 1024 00:36:55,410 --> 00:36:52,960 National Defense Authorization into law 1025 00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:55,420 every December and that is what tells 1026 00:36:58,920 --> 00:36:56,890 you what we're doing with all our war 1027 00:37:00,720 --> 00:36:58,930 money which is half our discretionary 1028 00:37:02,070 --> 00:37:00,730 funding in fact well over half our 1029 00:37:04,170 --> 00:37:02,080 discretionary funding but it's half a 1030 00:37:06,150 --> 00:37:04,180 trillion dollars a year that we're 1031 00:37:08,340 --> 00:37:06,160 spending on basically bombing other 1032 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:08,350 people that's the bill it's a thousand 1033 00:37:11,190 --> 00:37:09,610 pages but that's the one that's gonna 1034 00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:11,200 tell you what they're doing but they 1035 00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:12,580 pass it at the same time as the budget 1036 00:37:16,850 --> 00:37:15,190 so here I am with two thousand pages now 1037 00:37:20,910 --> 00:37:16,860 that I'm supposed to read and pick apart 1038 00:37:24,660 --> 00:37:20,920 they make it so so hard and I think it's 1039 00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,670 done by design I really do yeah I really 1040 00:37:28,290 --> 00:37:26,320 do too I mean the Federal Reserve Act 1041 00:37:30,300 --> 00:37:28,300 which i think is one of the worst things 1042 00:37:32,610 --> 00:37:30,310 that we've signed on to I mean that was 1043 00:37:34,230 --> 00:37:32,620 signed on Christmas Eve and that's the 1044 00:37:35,610 --> 00:37:34,240 indicator right there people aren't 1045 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:35,620 gonna like this so let's do it while 1046 00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:36,970 everyone's at home with their families I 1047 00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:39,520 think it was only a fraction of the 1048 00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:41,110 government that was even there to to 1049 00:37:45,150 --> 00:37:42,640 deal with it but they got it through 1050 00:37:47,370 --> 00:37:45,160 well that's another thing that I've seen 1051 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:47,380 not in this Congress yet but I've also 1052 00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:49,530 seen them pass bills through empty rooms 1053 00:37:54,300 --> 00:37:51,910 because they wait until everybody's gone 1054 00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:54,310 and someone will get up and say oh I 1055 00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:56,110 want to pass this bill and then no one's 1056 00:38:01,530 --> 00:37:57,490 there to object and so it just passes 1057 00:38:02,910 --> 00:38:01,540 and it's stunning to me that this stuff 1058 00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:02,920 is allowed to happen but it's all 1059 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:04,150 allowed to happen because we're not 1060 00:38:08,010 --> 00:38:06,250 paying attention if there was an outcry 1061 00:38:09,630 --> 00:38:08,020 every single time that happened it would 1062 00:38:11,820 --> 00:38:09,640 not happen is up and often as it does 1063 00:38:14,220 --> 00:38:11,830 but we are not watching mainly because 1064 00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:14,230 c-span is boring but you don't need 1065 00:38:18,630 --> 00:38:16,210 c-span to know this is happening I 1066 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:18,640 don't watch c-span I do it all by 1067 00:38:22,740 --> 00:38:19,810 looking through the congressional record 1068 00:38:24,420 --> 00:38:22,750 it's all there and in fact the one that 1069 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:24,430 I use there's something called the daily 1070 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:27,970 digest and it's it's never any more than 1071 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:29,770 10 pages and it just tells you these are 1072 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:33,490 the bills that passed it's very dry it's 1073 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:35,410 just this is what happened and any 1074 00:38:39,089 --> 00:38:37,330 journalist in this country can look at 1075 00:38:40,710 --> 00:38:39,099 the daily digest the same way I do and 1076 00:38:42,420 --> 00:38:40,720 it's disturbing to me how few of them 1077 00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:42,430 actually do because it's so accessible 1078 00:38:47,730 --> 00:38:45,910 it's available the next day it is 1079 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:47,740 possible to get this stuff and it's not 1080 00:38:54,750 --> 00:38:52,330 that hard I am not that smart like if I 1081 00:38:56,970 --> 00:38:54,760 can do this anybody can do this yet when 1082 00:38:58,920 --> 00:38:56,980 I turn on the TV the few times that I do 1083 00:39:01,200 --> 00:38:58,930 the stories that are being talked about 1084 00:39:04,050 --> 00:39:01,210 are just I don't I don't know what 1085 00:39:05,550 --> 00:39:04,060 planet everyone else is living on my my 1086 00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:05,560 idea of what's happening in government 1087 00:39:08,940 --> 00:39:07,510 is so different from the mainstream idea 1088 00:39:11,130 --> 00:39:08,950 like everyone right now is talking about 1089 00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:11,140 Planned Parenthood there's been one bill 1090 00:39:15,089 --> 00:39:12,760 about Planned Parenthood there's been a 1091 00:39:16,859 --> 00:39:15,099 lot more deregulating wall street but if 1092 00:39:19,380 --> 00:39:16,869 you watch the TV you think that the 1093 00:39:21,140 --> 00:39:19,390 debate is vastly different from what's 1094 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:21,150 actually being legislated it's amazing 1095 00:39:26,190 --> 00:39:23,770 right yeah it's either about Planned 1096 00:39:28,170 --> 00:39:26,200 Parenthood or race or a particular 1097 00:39:31,109 --> 00:39:28,180 school shooting and it's nothing about 1098 00:39:33,570 --> 00:39:31,119 all the huge things they're putting 1099 00:39:35,070 --> 00:39:33,580 through the favours for banks all the 1100 00:39:37,260 --> 00:39:35,080 things going on on the international 1101 00:39:39,839 --> 00:39:37,270 stage with Russia and China that isn't 1102 00:39:41,370 --> 00:39:39,849 really making the front page either yeah 1103 00:39:43,859 --> 00:39:41,380 there's a lot of distractions stories 1104 00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:43,869 going on like how the whole world seems 1105 00:39:50,460 --> 00:39:48,160 to be bombing Syria right now everybody 1106 00:39:52,620 --> 00:39:50,470 bombing Syria I don't understand it but 1107 00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:52,630 that's because I'm not being given much 1108 00:39:55,770 --> 00:39:54,190 context you know anything I do 1109 00:39:57,240 --> 00:39:55,780 understand I understand from watching 1110 00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:57,250 congressional hearings that's where you 1111 00:40:00,930 --> 00:39:59,200 get the information when's the last time 1112 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:00,940 you turned on TV and watched a 1113 00:40:05,010 --> 00:40:02,770 congressional hearing they're just not 1114 00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:05,020 airing them instead you get 24 hours of 1115 00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:07,599 what the Kardashians are up to and like 1116 00:40:12,030 --> 00:40:09,310 you said like Planned Parenthood and the 1117 00:40:15,300 --> 00:40:12,040 2016 election that is the mother of all 1118 00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:15,310 distractions oh it's a giant pageant and 1119 00:40:18,810 --> 00:40:16,900 the problem is most of us have already 1120 00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:18,820 made up our minds we don't need this 1121 00:40:22,829 --> 00:40:21,250 much coverage of these individuals most 1122 00:40:25,290 --> 00:40:22,839 of them who won't even be in the race by 1123 00:40:27,089 --> 00:40:25,300 the time we vote so that is the biggest 1124 00:40:27,930 --> 00:40:27,099 distraction what really disturbs me is 1125 00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:27,940 that people think that they're 1126 00:40:31,710 --> 00:40:29,710 politically aware if there 1127 00:40:34,859 --> 00:40:31,720 aware of what Hillary or Trump or Jeb 1128 00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:34,869 said recently and that that's become a 1129 00:40:38,820 --> 00:40:36,400 substitute for knowing what's going on 1130 00:40:41,430 --> 00:40:38,830 in the country and it's just it that 1131 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:41,440 makes me crazy there's so many like this 1132 00:40:45,210 --> 00:40:43,450 is a refreshing podcast to go on because 1133 00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:45,220 there's so many like I'll do radio shows 1134 00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:47,680 all over the country and they'll just 1135 00:40:50,670 --> 00:40:48,790 like so what do you think in the debate 1136 00:40:53,130 --> 00:40:50,680 last night it's like I didn't watch it 1137 00:40:56,339 --> 00:40:53,140 like I don't watch The Bachelor either 1138 00:40:59,070 --> 00:40:56,349 you know like mm-hmm it's it's become 1139 00:41:00,750 --> 00:40:59,080 that ridiculous even when people get the 1140 00:41:03,060 --> 00:41:00,760 opportunity to talk to me they don't 1141 00:41:04,530 --> 00:41:03,070 they talk about the pageant they don't 1142 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:04,540 talk about the bills because quite 1143 00:41:07,290 --> 00:41:05,650 frankly they don't know what's in them 1144 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:07,300 right and it's disturbing to me right 1145 00:41:11,370 --> 00:41:09,130 it's such a waste of time I've also 1146 00:41:13,470 --> 00:41:11,380 noticed that so many of the bills you've 1147 00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:13,480 been talking about on your show seem to 1148 00:41:16,349 --> 00:41:15,190 pass by voice pho which to my 1149 00:41:18,599 --> 00:41:16,359 understanding means they aren't even 1150 00:41:19,950 --> 00:41:18,609 recording who votes what is that a newer 1151 00:41:23,099 --> 00:41:19,960 trenor's that always been a little 1152 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:23,109 loophole of there's no it's they do this 1153 00:41:27,510 --> 00:41:25,570 by it's called suspension of the rules 1154 00:41:29,609 --> 00:41:27,520 and so you don't have to go through the 1155 00:41:31,349 --> 00:41:29,619 rules committee if there's a bill that's 1156 00:41:33,240 --> 00:41:31,359 completely uncontroversial and this has 1157 00:41:34,770 --> 00:41:33,250 a place in our system because for 1158 00:41:37,260 --> 00:41:34,780 instance the post office has some wacky 1159 00:41:39,450 --> 00:41:37,270 rules like you can't rename it without 1160 00:41:40,829 --> 00:41:39,460 Congress doing it so there's no reason 1161 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:40,839 in the world why we have to have a whole 1162 00:41:44,490 --> 00:41:42,490 committee meaning about renaming a post 1163 00:41:46,980 --> 00:41:44,500 office there is a place for this but 1164 00:41:49,109 --> 00:41:46,990 what's happening is especially in tune 1165 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:49,119 which is my last episode they passed so 1166 00:41:53,940 --> 00:41:52,210 many large funding bills that I don't 1167 00:41:55,950 --> 00:41:53,950 think they really had time to read all 1168 00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:55,960 the little ones and so they just pass 1169 00:41:58,650 --> 00:41:57,310 them by voice vote and what's beautiful 1170 00:42:00,810 --> 00:41:58,660 about voice vote if you're a congressman 1171 00:42:02,849 --> 00:42:00,820 is there's no accountability because you 1172 00:42:04,589 --> 00:42:02,859 didn't have to say yes or no and so 1173 00:42:06,420 --> 00:42:04,599 there were 30 bills that passed the 1174 00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:06,430 House of Representatives that I read for 1175 00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:08,710 the last episode 21 of them were passed 1176 00:42:12,810 --> 00:42:11,230 by voice vote and voice vote happens all 1177 00:42:15,270 --> 00:42:12,820 the time but this was it was 1178 00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:15,280 extraordinary the number of them for 1179 00:42:19,950 --> 00:42:17,440 this last month I am I personally think 1180 00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:19,960 it's unacceptable I think I think most 1181 00:42:25,050 --> 00:42:22,390 votes should have at least you know 1182 00:42:28,109 --> 00:42:25,060 whether the person said yes or no yeah 1183 00:42:30,089 --> 00:42:28,119 but yeah right now over the summer they 1184 00:42:32,310 --> 00:42:30,099 really haven't been doing that mm-hmm 1185 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:32,320 last time we did talk a little bit about 1186 00:42:36,329 --> 00:42:34,450 the idea that you potentially would run 1187 00:42:38,130 --> 00:42:36,339 for office in the future or mobilize 1188 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:38,140 your audience in some way to fight back 1189 00:42:42,670 --> 00:42:39,970 has there been any kind of progress on 1190 00:42:47,950 --> 00:42:42,680 that front well I just moved to a nudist 1191 00:42:49,390 --> 00:42:47,960 and so I what I'm doing right now is my 1192 00:42:51,460 --> 00:42:49,400 audience and I have been collecting 1193 00:42:54,610 --> 00:42:51,470 information on how to get on the ballot 1194 00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:54,620 in all 50 states and so I will be doing 1195 00:42:58,240 --> 00:42:56,510 an episode to tell people in the order 1196 00:42:59,410 --> 00:42:58,250 of the easiest to the hardest this is 1197 00:43:02,020 --> 00:42:59,420 how you get on the ballot and I'll 1198 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:02,030 probably do it like really fast you know 1199 00:43:05,980 --> 00:43:03,410 I don't want to make a long boring 1200 00:43:08,380 --> 00:43:05,990 episode but my hope is that in some of 1201 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:08,390 the easier states to get people to get 1202 00:43:11,260 --> 00:43:09,290 their names on the ballot because 1203 00:43:13,060 --> 00:43:11,270 there's somewhere it's 25 signatures and 1204 00:43:13,690 --> 00:43:13,070 you're in like it's that easy and it's 1205 00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:13,700 amazing 1206 00:43:20,260 --> 00:43:17,330 but here in California I think right now 1207 00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:20,270 we're 49th out of 50 a--the in ease of 1208 00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:22,400 getting onto the ballot because for me 1209 00:43:27,550 --> 00:43:25,250 to do so I would have to collect 3,000 1210 00:43:30,370 --> 00:43:27,560 signatures and I would have to win the 1211 00:43:34,090 --> 00:43:30,380 primary in order to get my name on the 1212 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:34,100 ballot which is crazy crazy crazy crazy 1213 00:43:37,590 --> 00:43:35,690 it's really been rigged by the 1214 00:43:40,330 --> 00:43:37,600 Democratic and Republican parties 1215 00:43:42,460 --> 00:43:40,340 because of out of our 54 districts we 1216 00:43:43,690 --> 00:43:42,470 had four people that were not democrat 1217 00:43:47,170 --> 00:43:43,700 or republican that made it onto the 1218 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:47,180 actual ballot so I'm definitely willing 1219 00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:49,490 to put my name on the ballot the problem 1220 00:43:52,390 --> 00:43:50,720 I'm running into now is that my 1221 00:43:52,930 --> 00:43:52,400 work-life balance is completely out of 1222 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:52,940 control 1223 00:43:56,350 --> 00:43:54,530 I'm just working all the time and just 1224 00:43:58,810 --> 00:43:56,360 trying to keep my head above water so to 1225 00:44:01,630 --> 00:43:58,820 collect 3000 signatures and then win a 1226 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:01,640 primary in the next six months in a 1227 00:44:06,250 --> 00:44:02,930 district that I've lived in for 1228 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:06,260 literally six weeks like I don't know if 1229 00:44:11,530 --> 00:44:09,410 that's the best use of my time one of 1230 00:44:13,630 --> 00:44:11,540 the things that like I said my husband 1231 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:13,640 he's working in a company that he loves 1232 00:44:17,020 --> 00:44:15,290 right now and he's still building up his 1233 00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:17,030 resume but one of the goals that we have 1234 00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:18,890 is to get it so that we can live 1235 00:44:23,710 --> 00:44:21,200 wherever we want and possibly move 1236 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:23,720 somewhat frequently and if we can do 1237 00:44:28,210 --> 00:44:26,690 that I'd be willing to move to a place 1238 00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:28,220 if there's a group of people that want 1239 00:44:32,860 --> 00:44:30,130 me to represent them because with like 1240 00:44:35,980 --> 00:44:32,870 there's a lot of I mean I'd obviously be 1241 00:44:39,340 --> 00:44:35,990 a carpetbagger I'm aware of that but if 1242 00:44:41,110 --> 00:44:39,350 these people are allowed to by their 1243 00:44:42,910 --> 00:44:41,120 congressman why can't a group of people 1244 00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:42,920 that want me to go and represent their 1245 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:44,240 district why can't I go to their 1246 00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:47,450 district to do that you know or move to 1247 00:44:53,830 --> 00:44:50,480 a place that you know like I've I like 1248 00:44:55,240 --> 00:44:53,840 tornadoes I'm a freak so I would move to 1249 00:44:56,470 --> 00:44:55,250 Oklahoma and that's one of the places 1250 00:44:57,849 --> 00:44:56,480 where it's like 1251 00:44:59,260 --> 00:44:57,859 super easy to get on the ballot I can go 1252 00:45:01,270 --> 00:44:59,270 to the grocery store talk to 100 people 1253 00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:01,280 I'm on the ballot and then go and shake 1254 00:45:06,190 --> 00:45:04,400 hands in a place that's less populated 1255 00:45:07,690 --> 00:45:06,200 you know what I mean and I'm not afraid 1256 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:07,700 of red states or blue states because I 1257 00:45:12,550 --> 00:45:09,890 think the red-blue divide is all crap so 1258 00:45:14,470 --> 00:45:12,560 I'll go anywhere that's kind of like how 1259 00:45:18,370 --> 00:45:14,480 my idea about it this is shifting 1260 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:18,380 because the show would definitely suffer 1261 00:45:23,859 --> 00:45:21,170 if I had to do it the California Way and 1262 00:45:25,180 --> 00:45:23,869 winning the primary I just don't know 1263 00:45:26,710 --> 00:45:25,190 how we would do it without calling 1264 00:45:30,010 --> 00:45:26,720 myself a Democrat or Republican and I 1265 00:45:32,050 --> 00:45:30,020 just won't do that yeah so so yeah the 1266 00:45:33,849 --> 00:45:32,060 part I'm gonna play in this is to try 1267 00:45:35,380 --> 00:45:33,859 and courage congressional additional 1268 00:45:37,060 --> 00:45:35,390 listeners to at least get their name on 1269 00:45:38,980 --> 00:45:37,070 the ballot practice for the midterm 1270 00:45:41,020 --> 00:45:38,990 because that's where I have my hope to 1271 00:45:42,430 --> 00:45:41,030 tell you the truth in a presidential 1272 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:42,440 election I mean you can already see a 1273 00:45:46,570 --> 00:45:44,210 turn on the TV right now and you see 1274 00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:46,580 it's already a circus but in a midterm 1275 00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:49,609 election so few people vote that if we 1276 00:45:55,690 --> 00:45:51,890 could spread the idea in the Internet 1277 00:45:57,310 --> 00:45:55,700 age of taking over the midterm so 1278 00:45:59,290 --> 00:45:57,320 getting a bunch of people who have never 1279 00:46:01,660 --> 00:45:59,300 voted before to go in the midterms and 1280 00:46:03,550 --> 00:46:01,670 vote in new people to the House of 1281 00:46:05,140 --> 00:46:03,560 Representatives my hope for something 1282 00:46:07,540 --> 00:46:05,150 like that happening is actually in a 1283 00:46:09,490 --> 00:46:07,550 midterm election so the 2018 election 1284 00:46:10,780 --> 00:46:09,500 was where I'd really like to make a 1285 00:46:13,330 --> 00:46:10,790 difference and hopefully have the 1286 00:46:17,020 --> 00:46:13,340 audience to be able to pull that off 1287 00:46:18,970 --> 00:46:17,030 but for 2016 I mean most people if their 1288 00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:18,980 voters do vote in the presidential 1289 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:20,450 election in the presidential election 1290 00:46:22,990 --> 00:46:20,930 alone 1291 00:46:28,330 --> 00:46:23,000 it's the midterms where we could really 1292 00:46:30,580 --> 00:46:28,340 mess with them so that would be fun yeah 1293 00:46:33,010 --> 00:46:30,590 yeah I can't run in California not now 1294 00:46:35,620 --> 00:46:33,020 got to get creative but it sounds like 1295 00:46:37,450 --> 00:46:35,630 you've got a plan I like it yeah Ryan 1296 00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:37,460 I'm disappointed I mean I tell people 1297 00:46:40,660 --> 00:46:38,720 all the time to put their names on the 1298 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:40,670 ballot so for me to be like nope can't 1299 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:41,450 do it 1300 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:45,770 I do feel shitty about that I feel like 1301 00:46:50,620 --> 00:46:47,090 I'm not putting my money where my mouth 1302 00:46:53,770 --> 00:46:50,630 is but at the same time there's only so 1303 00:46:55,540 --> 00:46:53,780 much time I have and I'm struggling so 1304 00:46:59,650 --> 00:46:55,550 much already that my choices really 1305 00:47:01,090 --> 00:46:59,660 continue congressional dish or not be 1306 00:47:02,770 --> 00:47:01,100 able to put my name on the ballot I 1307 00:47:04,330 --> 00:47:02,780 don't know how I'd win a primary here I 1308 00:47:06,340 --> 00:47:04,340 just I don't know how I would do that 1309 00:47:08,650 --> 00:47:06,350 I'd only have six months 1310 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:08,660 there's only so much you can do somebody 1311 00:47:13,330 --> 00:47:10,250 else should step up 1312 00:47:15,450 --> 00:47:13,340 and run in an honest way because 1313 00:47:18,099 --> 00:47:15,460 congressional dish is really great and 1314 00:47:20,140 --> 00:47:18,109 to lose it would be a serious disservice 1315 00:47:23,770 --> 00:47:20,150 because I really do think you're doing 1316 00:47:25,510 --> 00:47:23,780 the job of the entire news media you 1317 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:25,520 know all of them combined they're 1318 00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:27,650 supposed to be doing one thing and 1319 00:47:32,260 --> 00:47:29,210 that's what you're doing and they aren't 1320 00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:32,270 so it definitely fills a hole that 1321 00:47:36,820 --> 00:47:35,570 really needs to be there but great job I 1322 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:36,830 mean that pretty much brings us to the 1323 00:47:41,170 --> 00:47:39,050 end of the line Jen thanks again for all 1324 00:47:43,060 --> 00:47:41,180 you do of course shows like ours both 1325 00:47:44,650 --> 00:47:43,070 run on funds of those who want to keep 1326 00:47:46,750 --> 00:47:44,660 them around I'm glad we both had a 1327 00:47:48,970 --> 00:47:46,760 pretty good year of course congressional 1328 00:47:50,890 --> 00:47:48,980 dishes the show congressional dish calm 1329 00:47:52,540 --> 00:47:50,900 is the website anything else you'd like 1330 00:47:54,370 --> 00:47:52,550 to tell the people before we call it in 1331 00:47:56,170 --> 00:47:54,380 no I just want to thank you for having 1332 00:47:58,540 --> 00:47:56,180 back on this is a great conversation I 1333 00:47:59,560 --> 00:47:58,550 love talking to you Greg oh thank you 1334 00:48:01,750 --> 00:47:59,570 it's always a pleasure 1335 00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:01,760 very cool keep doing what you do oh I 1336 00:48:06,550 --> 00:48:03,490 take it back there is one more thing 1337 00:48:08,410 --> 00:48:06,560 sure my twitter handle at jen briny 1338 00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:08,420 that's the best way to reach me and I 1339 00:48:12,339 --> 00:48:10,310 would love to talk to each and every one 1340 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:12,349 of you I'm obsessed with Twitter so join 1341 00:48:17,260 --> 00:48:14,690 me on the Twitter boom there you have it 1342 00:48:19,329 --> 00:48:17,270 people contact Jen on Twitter it's big 1343 00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:19,339 props to you take care of yourself this 1344 00:48:22,180 --> 00:48:21,770 has been a pleasure and I'll talk to you 1345 00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:22,190 next time 1346 00:48:27,099 --> 00:48:25,040 sounds great thanks bye alright guys 1347 00:48:28,839 --> 00:48:27,109 there it is I know that looking into 1348 00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:28,849 what the government is actually signing 1349 00:48:33,370 --> 00:48:31,520 and voting on isn't always the sexiest 1350 00:48:35,290 --> 00:48:33,380 but you can't deny it's where you see 1351 00:48:37,030 --> 00:48:35,300 the legislation that actually moves us 1352 00:48:39,460 --> 00:48:37,040 towards many of the big conspiratorial 1353 00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:39,470 campaigns we talk about and I think it's 1354 00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:41,450 really interesting to see Jen who really 1355 00:48:45,820 --> 00:48:43,490 wouldn't consider herself a conspiracy 1356 00:48:47,770 --> 00:48:45,830 person getting into the details of the 1357 00:48:49,329 --> 00:48:47,780 World Trade Organization and just 1358 00:48:51,099 --> 00:48:49,339 telling it like it is that yeah this 1359 00:48:53,290 --> 00:48:51,109 sort of sounds like the stuff you hear 1360 00:48:55,329 --> 00:48:53,300 from the conspiracy crowd about the 1361 00:48:57,820 --> 00:48:55,339 one-world government but I'm confident 1362 00:49:00,250 --> 00:48:57,830 that in the coming years you will see 1363 00:49:02,109 --> 00:49:00,260 the people like Abby Martin and an 1364 00:49:04,329 --> 00:49:02,119 organization like The Young Turks 1365 00:49:07,450 --> 00:49:04,339 get a lot more fringe and come out to 1366 00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:07,460 these weird waters because it's gonna be 1367 00:49:13,240 --> 00:49:10,400 harder and harder to deny we will see 1368 00:49:15,220 --> 00:49:13,250 but we also talk about here how much of 1369 00:49:16,990 --> 00:49:15,230 the social conditioning and culture 1370 00:49:18,490 --> 00:49:17,000 shaping that goes on involves things 1371 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:18,500 like developing a negative connotation 1372 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:21,050 to a label like conspiracy theorists I 1373 00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:23,690 mean we know this I embrace it but they 1374 00:49:26,620 --> 00:49:24,170 even may 1375 00:49:28,270 --> 00:49:26,630 truther a negative label and the point 1376 00:49:30,910 --> 00:49:28,280 is you can take someone who normally 1377 00:49:32,380 --> 00:49:30,920 would tune out conspiracy talk and show 1378 00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:32,390 them things like the World Trade 1379 00:49:36,099 --> 00:49:34,250 Organization or the International 1380 00:49:39,069 --> 00:49:36,109 Monetary Fund and the trans-pacific 1381 00:49:41,020 --> 00:49:39,079 partnership and bring them around if you 1382 00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:41,030 know what to point to and that's what I 1383 00:49:45,789 --> 00:49:43,430 think a show like this helps to do to 1384 00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:45,799 help bridge the gap because there is a 1385 00:49:50,140 --> 00:49:48,290 small one but this show and by extension 1386 00:49:52,390 --> 00:49:50,150 congressional dish as a whole is 1387 00:49:54,069 --> 00:49:52,400 something you could probably show to 1388 00:49:56,589 --> 00:49:54,079 your parents or your partner or your 1389 00:50:00,370 --> 00:49:56,599 brother or whoever might need to dip 1390 00:50:01,809 --> 00:50:00,380 their toe into conspiracy light plus 1391 00:50:03,339 --> 00:50:01,819 maybe this show was a little 1392 00:50:05,670 --> 00:50:03,349 self-serving because it's fun to have a 1393 00:50:07,870 --> 00:50:05,680 guest that's in my age group who's also 1394 00:50:10,539 --> 00:50:07,880 podcasts sometimes I feel a bit isolated 1395 00:50:12,819 --> 00:50:10,549 as the weird conspiracy guy in the 1396 00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:12,829 podcast community and the weird young 1397 00:50:17,859 --> 00:50:15,920 stoner in the conspiracy community I'm a 1398 00:50:20,260 --> 00:50:17,869 man without a country but if you enjoyed 1399 00:50:21,940 --> 00:50:20,270 the show and this surfacing for air from 1400 00:50:24,460 --> 00:50:21,950 the depths of our typical rabbit hole 1401 00:50:27,339 --> 00:50:24,470 and the Plus show we got more into some 1402 00:50:30,370 --> 00:50:27,349 of the economic cybersecurity and 1403 00:50:32,140 --> 00:50:30,380 medical related legislation as well as a 1404 00:50:32,770 --> 00:50:32,150 lot of other good stuff few people know 1405 00:50:34,390 --> 00:50:32,780 the drill 1406 00:50:37,020 --> 00:50:34,400 but also check out congressional dish 1407 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:37,030 and I'll see you next week so be awake 1408 00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:40,490 be ready I've done all I can 1409 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:42,559 your move backdoor wheelers and dealers 1410 00:50:58,120 --> 00:50:46,010 of the corporate takeover your frickin 1411 00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:03,590 they were for the team as they're sent 1412 00:51:13,310 --> 00:51:08,880 to the game and torn apart we twist the 1413 00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:13,320 siRNA kid up on a pipeline 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